Phil Kirschner: Real Estate, Futures, Workplace | Work 20XX Ep17

Jeff Frick
July 14, 2023
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On July 13, The McKinsey Global Institute (MGI) released the  ‘Empty Spaces and Hybrid Places: The Pandemic’s Lasting Impact on Real Estate' - report Sixty-four pages focused on ‘superstar’ cities in the US, Asia, and Europe, and the long term impacts from Covid on the commercial real estate market with a focus on office,

Welcome to the kick-off of Season 3 of Work 20XX with McKinsey’s Phil Kirschner, where we dive into the report, and a broader discussion on the best practices necessary to enable your organization to thrive in the face of this the workplace revolution

Thanks again Phil.


Empty Spaces and Hybrid Places: The Pandemics' lasting impact on Real Estate,
Authors: Jan Mischke, Ryan Luby, Brian Vickery, Jonathan Woetzel, Olivia White, Aditya Sanghvi, Jinnie Rhee, Anna Fu, Rob Palter, André Dua, Sven Smit, Editor: Benjamin Plotinsky, McKinsey Global Institute, 2023-July-13
https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/our-research/empty-spaces-and-hybrid-places

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Phil Kirschner

Senior Expert and Associate Partner, Real Estate & People and Organizational Performance, McKinsey and Company

LinkedIn Profile

https://www.linkedin.com/in/philkirschner/

McKinsey Profile 

https://www.mckinsey.com/our-people/phil-kirschner

Report 

Empty Spaces and Hybrid Places: The Pandemics' lasting impact on Real Estate,

Authors: Jan Mischke, Ryan Luby, Brian Vickery, Jonathan Woetzel, Olivia White, Aditya Sanghvi, Jinnie Rhee, Anna Fu, Rob Palter, André Dua, Sven Smit, Editor: Benjamin Plotinsky, McKinsey Global Institute, 2023-July-13 

https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/our-research/empty-spaces-and-hybrid-places 

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Select McKinsey Research References in the Interview 

McKinsey Global Institute (MGI)

https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/overview 


American Opportunity Survey, McKinsey and Company 

The American Opportunity Survey illuminates how many people are offered the option to work from home, who works flexibly, and how they feel about it.

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/sustainable-inclusive-growth/future-of-america/american-opportunity-survey 

Americans are embracing flexible work—and they want more of it, 

Authors: André Dua  Kweilin Ellingrud, Phil Kirschner, Adrian Kwok, Ryan Luby, Rob Palter, Sarah Pemberton: Editor: Katy McLaughlin  

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/americans-are-embracing-flexible-work-and-they-want-more-of-it

The future of wealth and growth hangs in the balance 

Authors: Jan Mischke; Olivia White Eckart Windhagen, Jonathan Woetzel; Michael Birshan, Sven Smit, Arvind Govindarajan and Szabolcs Kemeny Editor: Janet Bush https://www.mckinsey.com/mgi/overview/the-future-of-wealth-and-growth-hangs-in-the-balance 

Is your workplace ready for flexible work? A survey offers clues 

By Phil Kirschner, Adrian Kwok, and Julia McClatchy

2023-June-01 

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/is-your-workplace-ready-for-flexible-work-a-survey-offers-clues 

Real Estate Insights 

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights

Six new imperatives for real estate players

By Sophia Brañes, Daniele Chiarella, Aditya Sanghvi, and Brian Vickery

2023-March-07

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/six-new-imperatives-for-real-estate-players 

The Future of Workplace

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/Future-of-the-workplace

Organizational Health Index (OHI) - 

https://www.mckinsey.com/solutions/orgsolutions/overview/organizational-health-index 

Global balance sheet 2022: Enter Volatility 

Dec 15, 2022

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/strategy-and-corporate-finance/our-insights/global-balance-sheet-2022-enter-volatility 

Corporate real estate: From bricks and mortar to people and places

By Phil Kirschner, Britta Lietke, John Means, Abhishek Shirali

2022-Dec-05

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/operations/our-insights/operations-blog/corporate-real-estate-from-bricks-and-mortar-to-people-and-places

Your office needs a purpose,

By Phil Kirschner, Adrian Kwok, Matt Schrimper, Brooke Weddle

2022-August-29 https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/the-organization-blog/your-office-needs-a-purpose

Proposed climate rule signals new era for real estate

By Brodie Boland, Alastair Green, Daniel Stephens, Robert Palter, Shally Venugopal.  Editor: Katy McLaughlin

2033-June-23

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/proposed-climate-rule-signals-new-era-for-real-estate 

Workplace real estate in the COVID-19 era: From cost center to competitive advantage 

By Daniele Chiarella, Federico Marafante, and Robert Palter

2022-May-24

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/real-estate/our-insights/workplace-real-estate-in-the-covid-19-era-from-cost-center-to-competitive-advantage

Inflation 

https://www.mckinsey.com/featured-insights/inflation 

Talent 

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/how-we-help-clients/talent 

Great Attrition or Great Attraction? The choice is yours 

 By Aaron De Smet, Bonnie Dowling, Marino Mugayar-Baldocchi, and Bill Schaninger

2021-September-08 https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/great-attrition-or-great-attraction-the-choice-is-yours 

Retaining key employees in time of change, Sabine Cosack, Matthew Guthridge, and Emily Lawson , 2010-Aug-01 

https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/people-and-organizational-performance/our-insights/retaining-key-employees-in-times-of-change 

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Referenced in the interview 

NYC Buildings - Sustainability 

https://www.nyc.gov/site/buildings/codes/sustainability.page

NYC Local Law 97

https://www.nyc.gov/site/sustainablebuildings/ll97/local-law-97.page 

Breaking down New York real estate’s path to sustainability

Urban Green Council’s John Mandyck on Local Law 97, climate tech and carbon trading, 

Hiten Samtani, April 22, 2021 

https://therealdeal.com/new-york/2021/04/22/breaking-down-new-york-real-estates-path-to-sustainability/ 

Streetfight: Handbook for Urban Revolution by Janette Sadik-Khan, 2017-Mar-07

http://www.jsadikkhan.com/streetfight-the-book.html 

Curbing Traffic: The Human Case for Fewer Cars in our Lives, Melissa Bruntlett and Chris Bruntlett, 2021

http://www.modacitylife.com/books

Building the Cycling City: The Dutch Blueprint for Urban Vitality,  Melissa Bruntlett and Chris Bruntlett, 2018

http://www.modacitylife.com/books

15-Minute City 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15-minute_city 

Future Forum 

Website - https://futureforum.com/

Research

https://futureforum.com/research/

Book

How the Future Works: Leading Flexible Teams to do the Best Work of their Lives, Brian Elliott, Sheela Subramanian, Helen Kupp, Foreward by Stewart Butterfield, Wiley, 2022-May-17

https://futureforum.com/how-the-future-works/

  

Steve Todd, NASDAQ: Know your Customer | Looking Forward Podcast: Conversations about the Future of Work, with Ryan Anderson, MillerKnoll , Episode 5, 2021-09-28

https://lookingforwardhermanmiller.podbean.com/e/episode-5-steve-todd/

Kastle Systems - Back to Work Barometer 

https://www.kastle.com/safety-wellness/getting-america-back-to-work/

MillerKnoll Research - Insight Group 

https://www.millerknoll.com/ideas-in-action

Spring 2023 U.S. Office Occupier Sentiment Survey, CBRE 2023-May-18

https://www.cbre.com/insights/reports/spring-2023-us-office-occupier-sentiment-survey

The Leesman Index

https://www.leesmanindex.com/our-research-insights/ 

https://www.leesmanindex.com/ 

Julie Whelan: Mixed-Use Community, Healthy Submarket | Work 20XX Ep16 2023-June-28 - https://www.work20xx.com/episode/julie-whelan-mixed-use-community-healthy-submarket-work-20xx-ep16 

Brian Elliott: Connected, Effective, Workplace Future | Work 20XX #15 2023-June-23 - 

https://www.work20xx.com/episode/brian-elliott-connected-effective-workplace-future-work-20xx-15

Kate Lister | Research, People, Trust | Work 20XX #12 2023-April-08 https://www.work20xx.com/episode/kate-lister-research-people-trust-work-20xx-12

Tracy Hawkins: Talent, Twitter, People Perching | Work 20XX #09 - 2023-Jan-19  - https://www.work20xx.com/episode/tracy-hawkins-talent-twitter-people-and-perching-work-20xx-09 

Ryan Anderson: Bürolandschaft, Activity-Based, Design, Neighborhoods | Work 20XX #03 - 2022-March-09 - https://www.work20xx.com/episode/episode-3-ryan-anderson

Chris & Melissa Bruntlett: Fewer Cars, Better Living | Turn the Lens #18 2022-Jan-21 https://www.turnthelenspodcast.com/episode/chris-melissa-bruntlett-fewer-cars-better-living-turn-the-lens-18 

Darren Murph: Remote-First, Asynch Communications, Operating Manual | Work 20XX #01 - 2021-Dec-22 - https://www.work20xx.com/episode/episode-1-darren-murph 

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Menlo Creek Media

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